I have not been able to sit in front of this tool and generate any interest in our little debate due to the constraints of time. The production of my subjective material will be delayed this Sabbath morning. This is the designated point in time when much of my messages and thoughts are written. Yes of course I know it’s Saturday, have you not been reading the Blog! So it is, that the thing called Little League has pushed ahead of Blogging. In other words, ya don’t just get assigned the job of pitching coach, and go out and coach. Fact is, I have pitched. Fast pitch softball. Didn’t have a clue how to teach a 7 year old how to pitch a baseball. That’s right, baby! I’ve been researching! “My” great success, already, was my own grandson who pitched for the first time two weeks ago. Two innings of no run baseball. That’s right, IT WAS ALL ME! The following game they scored 10 runs on him and there is a five run rule for each inning. Guess I need to do some more research.
All kidding aside, sports is an area that we as parents and grand parents have the opportunity to instill some of the lessons in life that stay with our children throughout their lives. I must get back to it because, REALLY!, I don’t have a clue.
But, I do want to continue with our discussion and I have decided in lieu of my normal expostulations, I will introduce a Biblical text on which we all can comment on as part of the subject matter and can return to at any time as a reference for any future point being established.
So, here is the first one (with no comment today, back to baseball)
2 Corinthians 9: 6-12
6) Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously.
7) Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
8) And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work.
9) As it is written: “He has scattered abroad his gifts to the poor; his righteousness endures forever.” (Psalms 112: 9, but read 1-10)
10) Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for the food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness.
11) You will be made rich in everyway so that you can be generous on every occasion, and through, as your generosity will result in thanksgiving to God.
12) This service that you perform is not only supplying the needs of Gods people but is also overflowing in many expressions of thanks to God.
Now you all have a good Sabbath and/or I'll see you in church tomorrow. Oh! I am SO in trouble with God!
Showing posts with label Debate/Jesus. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Debate/Jesus. Show all posts
Saturday, May 22, 2010
Saturday, April 24, 2010
SO YA THINK YOU CAN ONE UP JESUS! REALLY?
Throughout the Bible, there is verse following verse, given by authors inspired by the glory of God, which compel us to allocate our wealth and our gifts to those less fortunate and in need. As you see in Exodus 23:4, “If thou meet thine enemy’s ox or his ass going astray, thou shalt surely bring it back to him again”. The command by God is not just directed at the poor, but the needy as well.
In many cases the biblical authors explain to us the special place God has set aside for the poor in His kingdom. But it is not just those who have not acquired material goods but in other areas as well. In the famous Sermon on the Mount, Matthew 5:3, you will read those legendary words of Jesus, “Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. The command goes far beyond the rich mans ability to spread his wealth. In Luke 4:18 Christ quotas the prophet Esaias “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised”. James reminds us in chapter 2, verse 5, “Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?”
But in Matthew 26:11, Mark 14:7, John 12:8 Jesus says (quoted from Mark) “For ye have the poor with you always.”And in 1 Corinthians 13:3 Paul writes, “And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing”. You ought to discover a bit about how the Bible speaks to charity on your own. And in verse 10, “But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away with.”
So my friends, no amount of vast government spending will alleviated the suffering of the poor. Instead we should be good stewards of the resources we have available locally to produce the best and most desired effects. Strive to be a quality parent and family member. Join community not for profit organizations and give abundantly to those on which you can keep a watchful eye. Use your talents to expedite the unleashing of a unifying spirit that will spread to the four corners of the earth.
And PLEASE!, leave to government that which the founders so clearly outlined and guard against its gobbling up of power that only afflicts the poor and weak. I would never suggest that my opponents in this debate have an ulterior motive in using government. I just believe they are using the wrong methods to achieve goals we all desire.
That would be to answer Christ’s call to do all we can to help those in need.
The Constitution created a federal government with only enumerated powers. All powers not listed were reserved to the states and the people. During the debate over adoption of the Constitution, the Constitution’s advocates also enumerated powers the federal government absolutely would not have. Therefore. The Bill of Rights-including the Tenth Amendment-was adopted.
The Tenth Amendment reads: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
In a variety of speeches, articles, letters, and pamphlets, the “enumerators”, including, among others, Alexander Hamilton, James Wilson, John Marshall, and of course, James Madison, listed some powers they solemnly promised would be outside the federal sphere.
The one’s we are interested in for this discussion but not limited to, are: family affairs, control of personal property outside of commerce, education, and oh my, here it is, services for the poor and unfortunate.
I bet they knew all about Jesus’ claim that the poor would be with us always and were determined to leave the federal government out of trying to make Jesus a liar. Any such attempt by those who adore big government can be witnessed as an abject failure.
And so it will be until the end of time.
In many cases the biblical authors explain to us the special place God has set aside for the poor in His kingdom. But it is not just those who have not acquired material goods but in other areas as well. In the famous Sermon on the Mount, Matthew 5:3, you will read those legendary words of Jesus, “Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. The command goes far beyond the rich mans ability to spread his wealth. In Luke 4:18 Christ quotas the prophet Esaias “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised”. James reminds us in chapter 2, verse 5, “Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?”
But in Matthew 26:11, Mark 14:7, John 12:8 Jesus says (quoted from Mark) “For ye have the poor with you always.”And in 1 Corinthians 13:3 Paul writes, “And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing”. You ought to discover a bit about how the Bible speaks to charity on your own. And in verse 10, “But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away with.”
So my friends, no amount of vast government spending will alleviated the suffering of the poor. Instead we should be good stewards of the resources we have available locally to produce the best and most desired effects. Strive to be a quality parent and family member. Join community not for profit organizations and give abundantly to those on which you can keep a watchful eye. Use your talents to expedite the unleashing of a unifying spirit that will spread to the four corners of the earth.
And PLEASE!, leave to government that which the founders so clearly outlined and guard against its gobbling up of power that only afflicts the poor and weak. I would never suggest that my opponents in this debate have an ulterior motive in using government. I just believe they are using the wrong methods to achieve goals we all desire.
That would be to answer Christ’s call to do all we can to help those in need.
The Constitution created a federal government with only enumerated powers. All powers not listed were reserved to the states and the people. During the debate over adoption of the Constitution, the Constitution’s advocates also enumerated powers the federal government absolutely would not have. Therefore. The Bill of Rights-including the Tenth Amendment-was adopted.
The Tenth Amendment reads: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
In a variety of speeches, articles, letters, and pamphlets, the “enumerators”, including, among others, Alexander Hamilton, James Wilson, John Marshall, and of course, James Madison, listed some powers they solemnly promised would be outside the federal sphere.
The one’s we are interested in for this discussion but not limited to, are: family affairs, control of personal property outside of commerce, education, and oh my, here it is, services for the poor and unfortunate.
I bet they knew all about Jesus’ claim that the poor would be with us always and were determined to leave the federal government out of trying to make Jesus a liar. Any such attempt by those who adore big government can be witnessed as an abject failure.
And so it will be until the end of time.
Thursday, April 15, 2010
Bill Has Joined
ThanX Bill, for joining. And no, we are not interested in "babble". But I expect that at times the conversation may start to sound like we are reenacting the lives of folks who lived in the land of Shinar and built the tower of Babel. Some folks will not understand what we are doing here and try to subvert the conversation by leading it off on some tangent. It is my job to steer as well as rebut.
So your point, “without an end game, why even entertain the examination of Christ’s words?”
While I agree with you in principle, there is an added ingredient. Christians believe we are on this sphere only as a stopping point on the road to where we are going and sometimes I believe many demonstrate the utter disregard for anything secular. Christians often seem less inclined to effect the government because their controlling authority is a supreme power and there is nothing they need to do concerning this terrestrial power. But I’ve noticed, not just lately, that politicians like to call out Christians by summoning our God to their side, almost to the point of being provocative. Using the Bible and the words of Jesus to support one or any of their big government grandiose schemes. That is the conversation here. I am the disciple who cut off the ear of the Roman guard in The Garden as they followed Judas up the hill to betray Jesus. Right or wrong, it's time for action! I’m a bit hesitant to wait on an end game to make the lives of my grandkids complete. I expect to fight regressive earthly powers. My friends, the time is NOW! BC
So your point, “without an end game, why even entertain the examination of Christ’s words?”
While I agree with you in principle, there is an added ingredient. Christians believe we are on this sphere only as a stopping point on the road to where we are going and sometimes I believe many demonstrate the utter disregard for anything secular. Christians often seem less inclined to effect the government because their controlling authority is a supreme power and there is nothing they need to do concerning this terrestrial power. But I’ve noticed, not just lately, that politicians like to call out Christians by summoning our God to their side, almost to the point of being provocative. Using the Bible and the words of Jesus to support one or any of their big government grandiose schemes. That is the conversation here. I am the disciple who cut off the ear of the Roman guard in The Garden as they followed Judas up the hill to betray Jesus. Right or wrong, it's time for action! I’m a bit hesitant to wait on an end game to make the lives of my grandkids complete. I expect to fight regressive earthly powers. My friends, the time is NOW! BC
Tuesday, April 13, 2010
Welcoming Jim
Jim Wheeler and Robert have been starting up a discussion back under a 2008 post titled "Yeah, About That". First, that's great! Second, everyone would like to read any and all comments. So, we need to keep the debate/discussion under my posts that are current and labeled "Debate/Jesus", if you all don't mind. I would call on both Jim and Robert's attention to what the debate is centered on. Yes, it is Jesus. So we all know who the character is. At that point I'm not sure it's relevant to debate whether one believes Christs name, or origin of His name, is one or from some other. We are here to discuss His words, not whether His name was Bill, George, anything but Sue! (Thanks Johnny Cash)
Gordon has left a challenging comment for Robert, but I am still about a week out from charging in with my own challenges, so I'm just sitting back and trying to get as large a group in here so that the fun can start.
But welcoming Jim brings additional satisfaction. The dude can cook some tasty looking meet. How do I get him on my side? BC
Gordon has left a challenging comment for Robert, but I am still about a week out from charging in with my own challenges, so I'm just sitting back and trying to get as large a group in here so that the fun can start.
But welcoming Jim brings additional satisfaction. The dude can cook some tasty looking meet. How do I get him on my side? BC
Friday, April 9, 2010
Welcoming Robert
I'd like to refer you to the comments under the post, "Commentary On Big Government". It is labeled "Political" but those who have commented there have lead us back to the label, "Debate/Jesus". If you are following the blog just for the debate and are not interested in following my opinions or stories, just click on the label you are interested in. But I hope all will go back to the archives and catch up on who I am and what we are doing here at B.C. and After
Thank you Robert for your contribution. I will allow Gordon the opportunity to defend his own comment. At any point as the discussion unfolds, I may throw in with one side or the other. In an effort to gain clarity, I may assume the role of referee or I might attempt to push the conversation in a direction where I believe the proposition is being accurately defended or rebutted. At all times, whether noted or assumed, I would like the comments to be biblically supported. However, asking a question to get clarification from a commenter is a perfectly accepted tool or method to challenge and obviously has no need for any supporting text.
If I read your comment correctly, Robert, I believe you are stating that this whole undertaking is simply irrelevant and that Jesus directs no responsibility of humanity to any other authority than His own. I do not want to rebut something I have misstated. So I’ll try to defend you first. The provision of our salvation, that is, “eternal life”, is Christ’s alone. Nowhere in the Bible can I find an assignment of our responsibility to that end, lent or given “joint custody” to a civil government. So you are correct on that point. But Christ was not silent about government. He was, however, unequivocal in delineating two separate spheres of authority and activity, the sacred and the secular. In Mark 12:17, Jesus tells His followers, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s”.
That is part of what has brought us to this discussion on this blog. Since it is Christ who introduced government into the discussion, not myself, the question becomes, “What part, if any, of His command to love our neighbor, or the Christian charitable mission, should be given over as the responsibility of an entity such as the federal government, and if any, how much?”
Thank you Robert for your contribution. I will allow Gordon the opportunity to defend his own comment. At any point as the discussion unfolds, I may throw in with one side or the other. In an effort to gain clarity, I may assume the role of referee or I might attempt to push the conversation in a direction where I believe the proposition is being accurately defended or rebutted. At all times, whether noted or assumed, I would like the comments to be biblically supported. However, asking a question to get clarification from a commenter is a perfectly accepted tool or method to challenge and obviously has no need for any supporting text.
If I read your comment correctly, Robert, I believe you are stating that this whole undertaking is simply irrelevant and that Jesus directs no responsibility of humanity to any other authority than His own. I do not want to rebut something I have misstated. So I’ll try to defend you first. The provision of our salvation, that is, “eternal life”, is Christ’s alone. Nowhere in the Bible can I find an assignment of our responsibility to that end, lent or given “joint custody” to a civil government. So you are correct on that point. But Christ was not silent about government. He was, however, unequivocal in delineating two separate spheres of authority and activity, the sacred and the secular. In Mark 12:17, Jesus tells His followers, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s”.
That is part of what has brought us to this discussion on this blog. Since it is Christ who introduced government into the discussion, not myself, the question becomes, “What part, if any, of His command to love our neighbor, or the Christian charitable mission, should be given over as the responsibility of an entity such as the federal government, and if any, how much?”
Tuesday, April 6, 2010
Just A Comment
I have given four newspapers in my local area, letters to the editor to be published soon, announcing our discussion. I'm trying to come up with other ways to get more traffic into the comment section. Anyone who spreads the word gets a.....Well isn't that what Christ compels us to do!
Yesterday (Apr. 5) I wrote 600 words but can not offer them to you as they are, because I broke my own rules. I'll edit and shorten and publish today or tomorrow. BC
Yesterday (Apr. 5) I wrote 600 words but can not offer them to you as they are, because I broke my own rules. I'll edit and shorten and publish today or tomorrow. BC
Sunday, April 4, 2010
PART TWO
RULES OF DEBATE
What we do not want to do here is jump around all over the place, winding up confluent and incoherent. It is my blog, so we will be credible and with biblical references, taking it slow, hashing out a specific stance. In other words, those of you on the opposing side might state Jesus’ encounter with the rich man in Mark 10, (underscoring the debate for and against redistribution of wealth). In the middle of laying out one’s perspective on that story, let’s not allow another participant to change the subject to charity that could be found in say, Matt. 22:37-39, or Mark 12:29-31. I’m just saying at the very least that we will agree to disagree before moving on to highlight another event, sermon, or parable in the life of Jesus. When I said above, “take it slow”, hey! I have some responsibilities in life! There are going to be times that I will not be able to rebut comments immediately. So don’t go talking on top of yourself, we won’t solve the problems of the world this or next week. Let us reason together.
I am not inviting you all to my blog in an attempt to make someone look bad and will carefully with an open mind consider your viewpoints. I have not exaggerated my claim of the desire to alleviate the suffering of the poor and afflicted. The ultimate end to this debate is to further my attempt to do so, that is, to alleviate suffering where it is possible, and to ask you who appose my methods to join me. That is to say, we, all of you who will visit my bog and make comments over the next several months, and myself, will together come to a conclusion and then take systematic and curative action. I hope you will join me to that end.
And you thought I was going to suggest a lengthy (common to any Crosby list) compilation of subjective decrees in an attempt to stifle dissent.
Tomorrow, The Start of Debate. I hope you all will allow me a bit of editorializing as I initiate debate in the morning. Thanks, BC
RULES OF DEBATE
What we do not want to do here is jump around all over the place, winding up confluent and incoherent. It is my blog, so we will be credible and with biblical references, taking it slow, hashing out a specific stance. In other words, those of you on the opposing side might state Jesus’ encounter with the rich man in Mark 10, (underscoring the debate for and against redistribution of wealth). In the middle of laying out one’s perspective on that story, let’s not allow another participant to change the subject to charity that could be found in say, Matt. 22:37-39, or Mark 12:29-31. I’m just saying at the very least that we will agree to disagree before moving on to highlight another event, sermon, or parable in the life of Jesus. When I said above, “take it slow”, hey! I have some responsibilities in life! There are going to be times that I will not be able to rebut comments immediately. So don’t go talking on top of yourself, we won’t solve the problems of the world this or next week. Let us reason together.
I am not inviting you all to my blog in an attempt to make someone look bad and will carefully with an open mind consider your viewpoints. I have not exaggerated my claim of the desire to alleviate the suffering of the poor and afflicted. The ultimate end to this debate is to further my attempt to do so, that is, to alleviate suffering where it is possible, and to ask you who appose my methods to join me. That is to say, we, all of you who will visit my bog and make comments over the next several months, and myself, will together come to a conclusion and then take systematic and curative action. I hope you will join me to that end.
And you thought I was going to suggest a lengthy (common to any Crosby list) compilation of subjective decrees in an attempt to stifle dissent.
Tomorrow, The Start of Debate. I hope you all will allow me a bit of editorializing as I initiate debate in the morning. Thanks, BC
OPEN LETTER TO A CHERISHED FRIEND
WAS JESUS A RADICAL BIG GOVERNMENT
LIBERAL / PROGRESSIVE?
PART ONE
It is Easter 2010. I think for all Christians, and I include myself within that group, this holiday is one of the greatest weekends in history. Most significant, I assert. But what of 2010? How is this Easter any different or more important? In my small world it is, for one reason. For folks around this world who happened to have graduated from High School in 1970, it is theirs, and my 40th class reunion. Now, I included Easter in my proclamation, not to complain, but just to state in passing, that such a family oriented holiday would be the choice of organizers of an event such as a 40th class reunion. However, at Rio Lindo Academy, every year is the same. That is to say, that all classes show up, and that has been the way since the beginning in 1962. But there are highlight classes and one of those this year, was the class of ‘70. There were suggestions, by those doing diligence to detail, that we could start reconnecting on Facebook. I have to say that after creating my “wall” on Facebook, not only have I reconnected with classmates, but long lost friends around the world. It makes me feel a bit sad and guilty that I was not able to attend the “big event” and likely lost something I can never get back and that I would have cherished for the rest of my life. But I’ll look on the bright side, I’ve found Facebook and many of those friends are starting to rekindle old friendships and I intend to continue with that endeavor.
One of the difficulties you encounter when you have not spoken to a particular friend in twenty, thirty, and in some cases, forty years is that said friend has grown, matured, and been subjected to ideas and influences quite differently than one’s own. There become formulated, considered or calculated, spiritual or political, opinions that by the age of fifty-eight, almost certainly are set in stone. To discuss, challenge or debate these issues often can lead to discourse that may be abrasive, disrespectful, disconcerting and hostile. It is with one special friend that, shall we say, determined discussions have taken place. I don’t feel we reached the argumentative stage, and at no time did I sense any hostility. However, I have two different and competing dilemmas. I did not initiate any challenge and only stated certain highlights and identifiers on Facebook, which included my distinction as a conservative. At that point the challenge became, “Jesus was a radical at the other end of the spectrum”. I suppose that is to say, Jesus was a progressive, since liberals do not like the “L” word, that He could not have been a conservative because he spent His whole life alleviating the afflictions of the poor and needy, and that, “of coarse”, is counter intuitive to conservatism. But a second assertion, quite different than the labeling of Christ, brought us to an impasse. My good friend’s disputation is that Jesus was, and continues to this day, to be a “big government” activist, and so directs us, shall I say in my own words, to follow Him. It is my opinion that the two are counter competing views. While I gave my friend the benefit of the doubt, that we both desired the same end for the less fortunate of our world, the vehicle for realizing the conclusion of all suffering was the debate. But my friend did not offer me the same consideration. His argument seemed to be; since the instrument or mechanism I would employ to alleviate suffering, private entities and personal charity, did not meet his litmus test of a welfare state, then it must logically follow, I, Bob Crosby, could really care less about the plight of the poor and less fortunate. How do you argue against a straw man insinuation or allegation? I chose to pull back. But something keeps nagging at me. He has no right to categorize Christ in his own terms. Therefore I set out to rethink my position strictly from a biblical standpoint. Prayer and study did not change my position. Seeking advice from those who mentor me and disciple me has not done so either. I must now stand up for Jesus and defend my position, and I believe, biblical fact. I seek to do this in a public arena, my blog. There, folks can leave comment, and no identities need be acknowledged and my class mate can debate or not. The above word “public” I hope will lend credence to the fact that I am open and willing to an honest debate at a location with facts and challenges documented for all time. So, the question stands; was Jesus a big government liberal? Part Two to follow, after I’ve announced the challenge. Rest assured, I will continue with or without my good friend, for there must be others who would stand in for him should he wish not to debate. Any and all are welcome.
LIBERAL / PROGRESSIVE?
PART ONE
It is Easter 2010. I think for all Christians, and I include myself within that group, this holiday is one of the greatest weekends in history. Most significant, I assert. But what of 2010? How is this Easter any different or more important? In my small world it is, for one reason. For folks around this world who happened to have graduated from High School in 1970, it is theirs, and my 40th class reunion. Now, I included Easter in my proclamation, not to complain, but just to state in passing, that such a family oriented holiday would be the choice of organizers of an event such as a 40th class reunion. However, at Rio Lindo Academy, every year is the same. That is to say, that all classes show up, and that has been the way since the beginning in 1962. But there are highlight classes and one of those this year, was the class of ‘70. There were suggestions, by those doing diligence to detail, that we could start reconnecting on Facebook. I have to say that after creating my “wall” on Facebook, not only have I reconnected with classmates, but long lost friends around the world. It makes me feel a bit sad and guilty that I was not able to attend the “big event” and likely lost something I can never get back and that I would have cherished for the rest of my life. But I’ll look on the bright side, I’ve found Facebook and many of those friends are starting to rekindle old friendships and I intend to continue with that endeavor.
One of the difficulties you encounter when you have not spoken to a particular friend in twenty, thirty, and in some cases, forty years is that said friend has grown, matured, and been subjected to ideas and influences quite differently than one’s own. There become formulated, considered or calculated, spiritual or political, opinions that by the age of fifty-eight, almost certainly are set in stone. To discuss, challenge or debate these issues often can lead to discourse that may be abrasive, disrespectful, disconcerting and hostile. It is with one special friend that, shall we say, determined discussions have taken place. I don’t feel we reached the argumentative stage, and at no time did I sense any hostility. However, I have two different and competing dilemmas. I did not initiate any challenge and only stated certain highlights and identifiers on Facebook, which included my distinction as a conservative. At that point the challenge became, “Jesus was a radical at the other end of the spectrum”. I suppose that is to say, Jesus was a progressive, since liberals do not like the “L” word, that He could not have been a conservative because he spent His whole life alleviating the afflictions of the poor and needy, and that, “of coarse”, is counter intuitive to conservatism. But a second assertion, quite different than the labeling of Christ, brought us to an impasse. My good friend’s disputation is that Jesus was, and continues to this day, to be a “big government” activist, and so directs us, shall I say in my own words, to follow Him. It is my opinion that the two are counter competing views. While I gave my friend the benefit of the doubt, that we both desired the same end for the less fortunate of our world, the vehicle for realizing the conclusion of all suffering was the debate. But my friend did not offer me the same consideration. His argument seemed to be; since the instrument or mechanism I would employ to alleviate suffering, private entities and personal charity, did not meet his litmus test of a welfare state, then it must logically follow, I, Bob Crosby, could really care less about the plight of the poor and less fortunate. How do you argue against a straw man insinuation or allegation? I chose to pull back. But something keeps nagging at me. He has no right to categorize Christ in his own terms. Therefore I set out to rethink my position strictly from a biblical standpoint. Prayer and study did not change my position. Seeking advice from those who mentor me and disciple me has not done so either. I must now stand up for Jesus and defend my position, and I believe, biblical fact. I seek to do this in a public arena, my blog. There, folks can leave comment, and no identities need be acknowledged and my class mate can debate or not. The above word “public” I hope will lend credence to the fact that I am open and willing to an honest debate at a location with facts and challenges documented for all time. So, the question stands; was Jesus a big government liberal? Part Two to follow, after I’ve announced the challenge. Rest assured, I will continue with or without my good friend, for there must be others who would stand in for him should he wish not to debate. Any and all are welcome.
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